Pantera concept

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#1 Jan 4, 2008, 9:02 am Hide

Duz185

This is even meaner looking than the original. Thought I'd throw this out to get some feedback from you guys.

-Later
#2 Jan 4, 2008, 9:24 am Hide

SMS

To me, that is one of the finer retro concept cars. Very well done for that stage of evolution. Would be cool to see it happen. What is the rumor mill saying abouat a new Pantera?
#3 Jan 4, 2008, 9:42 am Hide

Don-06C6

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!! Can't put the Cleveland in it, too dirty now. Besides I'm getting 6-8 mpg for 410 HP at the crank in my Torino. My Vette puts out around 560 at the crank and gets 28 @ 75 MPH. But with a modern power train I'd buy it.
#4 Jan 4, 2008, 10:02 am Hide

fiorano94

Looks good!

#5 Jan 4, 2008, 10:24 am Hide

Duz185

SMS wrote
To me, that is one of the finer retro concept cars. Very well done for that stage of evolution. Would be cool to see it happen. What is the rumor mill saying abouat a new Pantera?

Unfortunately these are only renderings. They were done by Stefan Schultze, a graphic designer out of Germany. The Pantera community would love to see this happen, but so far no one has stepped up to run with it.

Stefan is very talented and has done some pretty amazing work. Here's his website. Click on the red "Grafikportfolio.PDF" link.

http://www.firstsignal.de/

I agree that this is the best retro concept design for the Pantera. There have been a few, but none as good as this one.

#6 Jan 4, 2008, 10:34 am Hide

Raza76

That is just awesome. The Pantera has always been one of my favorites, and that concept does it justice!
#7 Jan 4, 2008, 11:39 am Hide

DC33

I like it

Looks like a Muria and GT40 had a kid
#8 Jan 4, 2008, 2:59 pm Hide

SMS

DC33 wrote
I like it

Looks like a Muria and GT40 had a kid

+1
I was thinking Muria from the moment I saw it. Must be why I love it.
#9 Jan 5, 2008, 3:37 am Hide

beeman

i love it!
#10 Jan 5, 2008, 4:57 am Hide

Duz185

Don-06C6 wrote
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!! Can't put the Cleveland in it, too dirty now. .

This is what I picture the add would say:

"The 2011 Pantera, a supercar renovation of the 1970s classic. Brought to you by Ford on the 40th anniversary of the original Pantera.

The body is aluminum construction with carbon fiber accents on a stainless steel frame for a svelte 2600 pounds. With a Cosworth V10 Biturbo engine, capable of producing 800 HP and 10,000 RPM. The powerplant can of propel this mechanical masterpiece to a top speed of 225 MPH and 0-60 in 2.3 sec. Its a exotic car with a race car soul.

With a price tag of $140,000, this is the closest you'll get to feel what its like to fly inside a silver bullet."

Hey, I like to daydream......
#11 Jan 5, 2008, 7:04 am Hide

Don-06C6

Price tag of $140. My Vette's gone. I looked seriously at the GT40 when they were $125 but then the dealer told me they were getting an additional $125 under the table. BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#12 Jan 5, 2008, 10:52 am Hide

Raza76

Don-06C6 wrote
Price tag of $140. My Vette's gone. I looked seriously at the GT40 when they were $125 but then the dealer told me they were getting an additional $125 under the table. BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd be willing to bet that the Ford guys would be holding their hand out under the table for this one, too. Especially after the "mark-up-success" they had with the GT.
#13 Jan 5, 2008, 11:26 am Hide

Don-06C6

Raza76 wrote
I'd be willing to bet that the Ford guys would be holding their hand out under the table for this one, too. Especially after the "mark-up-success" they had with the GT.
And if they did Mark, I'd tell 'em to pound sand again and get another Vette. This Vette is the first GM I've ever owned, always been Fords but not a 2X sticker. My brother's Shelby is being built the end of this month and he's paying more than I would but still under sticker. Can always pop it on Ebay and make 10K
#14 Jan 5, 2008, 12:28 pm Hide

DC33

Duz185 wrote
This is what I picture the add would say:

"The 2011 Pantera, a supercar renovation of the 1970s classic. Brought to you by Ford on the 40th anniversary of the original Pantera.

The body is aluminum construction with carbon fiber accents on a stainless steel frame for a svelte 2600 pounds. With a Cosworth V10 Biturbo engine, capable of producing 800 HP and 10,000 RPM. The powerplant can of propel this mechanical masterpiece to a top speed of 225 MPH and 0-60 in 2.3 sec. Its a exotic car with a race car soul.

With a price tag of $140,000, this is the closest you'll get to feel what its like to fly inside a silver bullet."

Hey, I like to daydream......

The car will NEVER wieght that little, even if it was all CF, NEVER, In fact I gaurentee it'll be 3k+
800hp, possible
10 RPM....not from an American car, and if it does (hahahah) it wont last long.
225mph and 2.3 secs?? doubtfull, and if they do, it will be fruity flappy paddles

like you said, one can dream

and all that for 140k, Id say hit the sac early tonight, cause MAYBE in your dreams it would be that cheap.....maybe
#15 Jan 6, 2008, 7:58 am Hide

Duz185

DC33 wrote
like you said, one can dream and all that for 140k

You are correct. It is a dream, and with current technology it's probably not possible, but with new innovation , incentives (and lots of money) anything is possible. And I agree, a car with all this would definitely be worth more than $140K. I was being optimistic for those of us with limited budgets.

Any takers?
#16 Jan 6, 2008, 4:24 pm Hide

Raza76

Well, can it be said the the sales of the limited number of GT's was a success? If so, I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if they took the same chassis/motor and wrapped that body and an "updated/retro" interior in it and ran the whole process over again.

And to be clear, I wouldn't have one problem with that whatsoever.
#17 Jan 6, 2008, 5:28 pm Hide

DC33

Raza76 wrote
Well, can it be said the the sales of the limited number of GT's was a success? If so, I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if they took the same chassis/motor and wrapped that body and an "updated/retro" interior in it and ran the whole process over again.

And to be clear, I wouldn't have one problem with that whatsoever.


and they would call it a Lincoln
hahhaha
they better update the GTs interior
its was
hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorible in everyway!!!!
makes a vette seem like a Rolls
#18 Jan 7, 2008, 2:14 am Hide

Duz185

The original Pantera sales were pretty good. It was priced at $10,000, between a Mustang @ $3K and a Ferrari @ $20K. Unfortunately a combination of the gas shortage and emmission regulations that hit in the mid 70's killed sales, so Ford pulled out. By that time DeTomaso had purchased a struggling Maserati and was busy trying to rescue it, so the Pantera project was scrapped.

The car is monocoque construction so there is no chassis, I would hope they don't repeat that. I would also hope that it not be called a Lincoln, and DEFINITELY a better interior. Keep in mind, the original car was designed in less than 9 months. Unheard of and a feat in itself, but it resulted in numerous deficiencies.

With a design like that rendering, the car would need to be completely re-engineered and in fact, re-born.
#19 Jan 7, 2008, 2:56 am Hide

SMS

Duz185,
WAAAAY back in time (1979) I was president of our high school auto club and organized a spring show each year. Our auto shop teacher Bruce Hatcher (Southport High, Indpls) knew somebody who had a twin turbo Pantera and brought it to one of the shows. I think it was a local car at the time. Do you know the other Panteras in the area and by chance know that one?
#20 Jan 7, 2008, 3:19 am Hide

Raza76

I think that as we know about Ford, they like to re-body and market cars.

There wasn't a whole lot the new GT and the GT40 have in common aside from the basic layout and appearance. It's more of a marketing move to build cars like that.

Seeing as they have existing tooling and engineering already in place, I don't see why they don't do a run of Pantera's now and capitalize again off the nastalgia. And then, maybe a couple years later do a run of the later model GT40s. Should be a relatively small upfront cost now that all the hard work's already been done when designing and building the GT.

Using the same underpinnings, I'd bet Every five years ford could build another nasalgia mobile that would sell for double-sticker...

Pantera, GT40MKII, RS200, Jaguar XJ13, and maybe even a new XJ220.
#21 Jan 7, 2008, 4:43 am Hide

DC33

Raza76 wrote
XJ220.


Im not sure if I should smile or barf at that one

horrible but a very very fast car
#22 Jan 7, 2008, 7:20 am Hide

Duz185

SMS wrote
Duz185,
Do you know the other Panteras in the area and by chance know that one?

Bill, as far as I know, there are about 6 or 7 Panteras in the central Indiana area. Four that are not driven much (one is in Ray Skillman's museum), three that go to car shows and drive-ins on the southside, and one that is driven too fast for its own good...

Unfortunately I don't think any of them are biturbos.

-William
#23 Jan 8, 2008, 4:57 am Hide

ZUL8TR

Duz...came across a vintage photo of a Pantera and had to share.



I'll be touring the Skillman musuem next month. Look forward to seeing the Pantera they have. I really like the look of the concept you showed. Hope it comes to life.
#24 Jan 8, 2008, 7:05 am Hide

Duz185

ZUL8TR wrote
Duz...came across a vintage photo of a Pantera and had to share.

Thanks ZUL8TR. That is the car (#2421) that was given to the Playboy Playmate of the Year (girl in picture), and featured in Playboy in the early 70s.
#25 Jan 17, 2008, 6:11 am Hide

RocketV

Will,
with a big hammer and a little bondo we could make your Pantera look just like that. We could even spray it that color if you like. I bet Krylon makes a pretty close match!