355 and 512TR info?
Oct 13, 2013, 1:39 pm
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Kinda interested in the 355 and 512TR again. 40k for the 355 and 80k or so for a 512tr aint bad at all.
Aside from the 355s manifold issues and the 512trs weak diff and tranny, anyone got any info, advice, things to look out for, be aware of ect?
Aside from the 355s manifold issues and the 512trs weak diff and tranny, anyone got any info, advice, things to look out for, be aware of ect?
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Oct 13, 2013, 3:04 pm
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355 has a bypass valve issue. Interiors will get sticky over time, and the exhaust manifolds are prone to cracking. There's also the difference between 2.7 and 5.2 engine management systems. The 2.7s have twin mass airflow sensors while the 5.2 only has one. The 2.7 is the earlier car. A thorough PPI will reveal a lot. Compression should be 180+. Timing belts are every 3 years or 30K miles.
The bypass issue can be ignored. It just causes more noise at idle.
The Manifolds can be replaced by units with higher flow.
The interior can be sent to Robby on Fchat to be fixed.
If I were you, I would go the 355 route. The ones you've been looking at are HALF THE PRICE of the TR. That yellow one that Roy has might be worth a trip to go see. The price is certainly right. I'm sure someone on Fchat knows the car.
The bypass issue can be ignored. It just causes more noise at idle.
The Manifolds can be replaced by units with higher flow.
The interior can be sent to Robby on Fchat to be fixed.
If I were you, I would go the 355 route. The ones you've been looking at are HALF THE PRICE of the TR. That yellow one that Roy has might be worth a trip to go see. The price is certainly right. I'm sure someone on Fchat knows the car.
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Oct 13, 2013, 11:57 pm
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The early 355 cars were prone to rapid valve guide wear. If I recall it was corrected with a material change sometime after 95.
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Oct 14, 2013, 11:38 am
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The early 355 cars were prone to rapid valve guide wear. If I recall it was corrected with a material change sometime after 95.
Yah brian said that. Seems to be an easy fix, or no fix as it just made for more noise at idle
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Oct 14, 2013, 11:46 am
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Read this:
A leakdown test will give you a VERY good indicator of valve health.
A leakdown test will give you a VERY good indicator of valve health.
Myth #1:
All 1995 F355 have valve guide issues and need their original valve guides replaced
Fact:
Completely false. According to FNA technical director Adam Williams, only about 20% of all 95-model year 355’s experienced excessive valve guide wear and needed them replaced. And in fact, about half way through the 1995 model year the factory changed over to a different type of valve guide (the ones that they replaced the old ones with on the early cars).
Myth #2:
Some have stated that since the valve guides were not sintered (formed and hardened by heat and pressure) then accelerated wear will also be seen later.
Fact:
FNA confirmed that this has never ever been an issue. The problem stemmed from improper seating of the guides and if no problem occurred early on then it will not be a problem in the future other than normal wear associated with running the car. PERIOD, END OF STORY!
Myth #3:
Valve guide issues can occur at any time during the life of the car and are more prone to experience these issue in higher mileage cars.
Fact:
According to the Ferrari factory in Italy and re-affirmed by Adam Williams, 90% of the valve guide issue occurred almost immediately or within the first two years of ownership. The few that have occurred in higher mileage cars cannot be confirmed to have happened at a specific point in time and likely could have been present for quite some time. Certainly the older valve guides may wear out faster but they don’t go from being in good shape to wearing out overnight.
Myth #4.
This is only a US problem due to the high sulpha content in our fuel and that Euro cars had different valve guides.
Fact:
Sorry but totally false. It was a small problem on Euro cars as well and the gas issue is inaccurate.
Myth #5:
Valve guide issues were only present on 95 models.
Fact:
Also false. Even with the newer valve guides post 95 production 355’s problems arose. A bad batch of valve guides found it’s way into several 97’s and at least two 98 355’s. Ferrari of Washington alone had two 97’s and one 98 355 that had valve guide issues discovered when each of those cars had higher than normal oil consumption.
Myth #6:
If the valve guides were changed on a 355 by the dealer then there must have been a problem. In other words why would the dealers change them free of cost if there wasn’t a problem.
Fact:
The amount of disinformation being spread in the past few years made it impossible for dealers to move 95 model year 355’s, even ones that had later production dates and didn’t even contain the old style valve guides. FNA finally decided to have all early production 95’s changed over even if there were no problems.
Myth 7:
Only 95 model year cars had any engine problems.
Fact:
I have already mentioned a bad batch of guides in other production year models but in addition some 96 and early 97’s cars had connecting rod failures (issues with the connecting rod bolts). There are also a few 98 specific engine related problems.
It amazes me how much inaccurate information on this issue is repeated by people many of whom, neither own a 355, have any experience with them, or don’t even own a Ferrari or have never worked on them. Because half a dozen people claim something is valid doesn’t make it so. Remember 99.9% of the population at one time believed the earth was flat.
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All 1995 F355 have valve guide issues and need their original valve guides replaced
Fact:
Completely false. According to FNA technical director Adam Williams, only about 20% of all 95-model year 355’s experienced excessive valve guide wear and needed them replaced. And in fact, about half way through the 1995 model year the factory changed over to a different type of valve guide (the ones that they replaced the old ones with on the early cars).
Myth #2:
Some have stated that since the valve guides were not sintered (formed and hardened by heat and pressure) then accelerated wear will also be seen later.
Fact:
FNA confirmed that this has never ever been an issue. The problem stemmed from improper seating of the guides and if no problem occurred early on then it will not be a problem in the future other than normal wear associated with running the car. PERIOD, END OF STORY!
Myth #3:
Valve guide issues can occur at any time during the life of the car and are more prone to experience these issue in higher mileage cars.
Fact:
According to the Ferrari factory in Italy and re-affirmed by Adam Williams, 90% of the valve guide issue occurred almost immediately or within the first two years of ownership. The few that have occurred in higher mileage cars cannot be confirmed to have happened at a specific point in time and likely could have been present for quite some time. Certainly the older valve guides may wear out faster but they don’t go from being in good shape to wearing out overnight.
Myth #4.
This is only a US problem due to the high sulpha content in our fuel and that Euro cars had different valve guides.
Fact:
Sorry but totally false. It was a small problem on Euro cars as well and the gas issue is inaccurate.
Myth #5:
Valve guide issues were only present on 95 models.
Fact:
Also false. Even with the newer valve guides post 95 production 355’s problems arose. A bad batch of valve guides found it’s way into several 97’s and at least two 98 355’s. Ferrari of Washington alone had two 97’s and one 98 355 that had valve guide issues discovered when each of those cars had higher than normal oil consumption.
Myth #6:
If the valve guides were changed on a 355 by the dealer then there must have been a problem. In other words why would the dealers change them free of cost if there wasn’t a problem.
Fact:
The amount of disinformation being spread in the past few years made it impossible for dealers to move 95 model year 355’s, even ones that had later production dates and didn’t even contain the old style valve guides. FNA finally decided to have all early production 95’s changed over even if there were no problems.
Myth 7:
Only 95 model year cars had any engine problems.
Fact:
I have already mentioned a bad batch of guides in other production year models but in addition some 96 and early 97’s cars had connecting rod failures (issues with the connecting rod bolts). There are also a few 98 specific engine related problems.
It amazes me how much inaccurate information on this issue is repeated by people many of whom, neither own a 355, have any experience with them, or don’t even own a Ferrari or have never worked on them. Because half a dozen people claim something is valid doesn’t make it so. Remember 99.9% of the population at one time believed the earth was flat.
Regards,
Jon P. Kofod
www.flatoutracing.net
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Oct 14, 2013, 12:38 pm
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A 355 GTB would make a great street and track car. In fact if you can find a 95 Challenge car, they have titles, so can be driven on the street. Aftermarket wheels, brakes, tires, safety gear, etc are plentiful.
The best sounding cars on Youtube are 355s with Capistro stage 3 exhausts.
I also like the TR variants, but see them more of a highway GT car.
Aftermarket wheels, brakes, tires, safety gear, etc are plentiful. The best sounding cars on Youtube are 355s with Capistro stage 3 exhausts.
I also like the TR variants, but see them more of a highway GT car.
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Oct 15, 2013, 4:32 pm
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MAJOR REDUCTION 355 Challenge Twin Turbo
See my ad from 5/13 for a complete description. Since I can no longer do trackays or races due to health reasons, I am selling this beautifully custom-built and well prepared (by Classic Coach), great looking, and mechanically excellent 1997 Factory F355 Challenge car AT A MAJOR DISCOUNT. No dings, no accidents, pics are in the original ad.
While it is not road legal, if anyone is looking for a hyper-fast and great handling track car, it's hard to beat any 355 Challenge (more forgiving than a 360 Challenge, which I also owned), much less this uprated 355.
With over 600 RWHP available (I keep the boost at 500 RWHP for total reliability), this car will outrun pretty much anything you would encounter at a track event, with total stability and control.
With 360 Challenge cars going for over $100k and 430 Challenges at more than that, you can blow them all away for half the price. A wonderful car for a beginner due to benign handling, and for a red group expert due to the massive and reliable power.
Selling at a major loss after putting only 2,000 miles on the car over 3 seasons. Cost well over $100K to build. SALE AT $65,000 OBO. Will also consider trade for a nice V-12, old or newer (manual shift only).
Contact Steven Solomon at:
ssjsolomon@aol.com or cell 914 450-5164
See my ad from 5/13 for a complete description. Since I can no longer do trackays or races due to health reasons, I am selling this beautifully custom-built and well prepared (by Classic Coach), great looking, and mechanically excellent 1997 Factory F355 Challenge car AT A MAJOR DISCOUNT. No dings, no accidents, pics are in the original ad.
While it is not road legal, if anyone is looking for a hyper-fast and great handling track car, it's hard to beat any 355 Challenge (more forgiving than a 360 Challenge, which I also owned), much less this uprated 355.
With over 600 RWHP available (I keep the boost at 500 RWHP for total reliability), this car will outrun pretty much anything you would encounter at a track event, with total stability and control.
With 360 Challenge cars going for over $100k and 430 Challenges at more than that, you can blow them all away for half the price. A wonderful car for a beginner due to benign handling, and for a red group expert due to the massive and reliable power.
Selling at a major loss after putting only 2,000 miles on the car over 3 seasons. Cost well over $100K to build. SALE AT $65,000 OBO. Will also consider trade for a nice V-12, old or newer (manual shift only).
Contact Steven Solomon at:
ssjsolomon@aol.com or cell 914 450-5164
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Nov 13, 2013, 9:32 am
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DAN!!!! THIS IS THE CAR!!!!!
Being a 95 it has a title and can be a street car as well.
1995 F355 Challenge 2013 CCR Class winner
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History:
The cars original owner was Tom Pappadoposos. Tom campaigned the car in the USA Ferrari Challenge series. The car was originally white with white interior. The car was sold to Kernel Kurt Carlson, national military hero and an avid car collector. Then the car was painted black by Kurt and ran in the series with Shelton motorcars until 2001. It was sold to an individual who lived in Pennsylvania who converted it for road use. I purchased the car in 2007. It is the current 2013 Challenge Club Racing F355 Class Winner.
Modificato:
The front has a detachable splitter and the rear has a carbon fiber wing. The under tray is made of aircraft aluminum. The windows have been removed and a window net is installed.
The engine was rebuilt in October 2013. At that time titanium valves and lifters were installed. The driveshaft was handmade in Germany. It is lighter and stronger. It was design to handle the stress of racing. The headers are a eight into two exhaust. The shocks and springs are new and customized by Delta-Vee motorsports.
Safety:
The car comes with a Competition Components fire suppression system, window net, the original roll cage, new OMP CF seat, OMP belts and the original doors for side impacts.
Original Equipment:
All the original equipment is included to return this car back to a street machine. This car is an original Challenge car and is fully serviced. It comes with 2 sets of original wheels. The car is currently being offered for sale at $65,000. The buyer is responsible for transportation. This car has a clear title 17,330 miles, Florida registered car. It can have standard auto insurance.
It is ready for the track. It needs nothing.
Included in the sale is all the original equipment.
Please send questions to Greg@foresitehomes.com
Being a 95 it has a title and can be a street car as well.
1995 F355 Challenge 2013 CCR Class winner
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History:
The cars original owner was Tom Pappadoposos. Tom campaigned the car in the USA Ferrari Challenge series. The car was originally white with white interior. The car was sold to Kernel Kurt Carlson, national military hero and an avid car collector. Then the car was painted black by Kurt and ran in the series with Shelton motorcars until 2001. It was sold to an individual who lived in Pennsylvania who converted it for road use. I purchased the car in 2007. It is the current 2013 Challenge Club Racing F355 Class Winner.
Modificato:
The front has a detachable splitter and the rear has a carbon fiber wing. The under tray is made of aircraft aluminum. The windows have been removed and a window net is installed.
The engine was rebuilt in October 2013. At that time titanium valves and lifters were installed. The driveshaft was handmade in Germany. It is lighter and stronger. It was design to handle the stress of racing. The headers are a eight into two exhaust. The shocks and springs are new and customized by Delta-Vee motorsports.
Safety:
The car comes with a Competition Components fire suppression system, window net, the original roll cage, new OMP CF seat, OMP belts and the original doors for side impacts.
Original Equipment:
All the original equipment is included to return this car back to a street machine. This car is an original Challenge car and is fully serviced. It comes with 2 sets of original wheels. The car is currently being offered for sale at $65,000. The buyer is responsible for transportation. This car has a clear title 17,330 miles, Florida registered car. It can have standard auto insurance.
It is ready for the track. It needs nothing.
Included in the sale is all the original equipment.
Please send questions to Greg@foresitehomes.com
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I've seen that car in person. It's incredible.
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Nov 13, 2013, 1:50 pm
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Im not paying 65k for a ferrari lol
Especially as i HATE black
Ill give him 50 tops
Especially as i HATE black
Ill give him 50 tops
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Dude, that's a 95 355 challenge. That is literally THE 355.That is a factory race car with a VIN, thus allowing you to drive it on the street.
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Id rather have a xj220s
690hp!
690hp!
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Nov 13, 2013, 6:33 pm
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65K vs. good luck finding one.
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Nov 14, 2013, 1:04 am
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That sound right at the beginning is worth the $65K. The car is free after that.
I toyed with buying that car in Feb 2012 but bought the QP instead. The asking price was a bit lower, then it went off the market.
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Id rather have a xj220s
690hp!
690hp!
Wrong thread!
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Nov 14, 2013, 1:06 am
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Especially as i HATE black
Easy there bud......
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Nov 14, 2013, 6:40 pm
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Bill has a lil plantation going on there! Lol
And whats wrong with waiting for an xj220?
And whats wrong with waiting for an xj220?
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Nov 15, 2013, 4:58 am
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You just think it's a black car.
This is the scale model of this car as raced in the series in 1997.
https://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/1_43_1997_Ferrari_355_Cha...
This is the scale model of this car as raced in the series in 1997.
https://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/1_43_1997_Ferrari_355_Cha...
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Nov 15, 2013, 7:10 am
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Bill has a lil plantation going on there! Lol
And whats wrong with waiting for an xj220?
And whats wrong with waiting for an xj220?
Spending a hilarious amount of money on a car that will cost you insane amounts to maintain. As well as probably being not nearly the car you would want it to be on a track.
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Nov 15, 2013, 3:28 pm
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Spending a hilarious amount of money on a car that will cost you insane amounts to maintain. As well as probably being not nearly the car you would want it to be on a track.
160-200k is "a hilarious amount of money"???
I consider that cheap
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Nov 15, 2013, 4:48 pm
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I suppose that's where you and I differ.
The other thing to consider with that level of $ car is the track insurance issue.
The other thing to consider with that level of $ car is the track insurance issue.
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Palmer, You have gone and forgotten who you are trying to reason with.
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Nov 16, 2013, 12:51 pm
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I suppose that's where you and I differ.
The other thing to consider with that level of $ car is the track insurance issue.
The other thing to consider with that level of $ car is the track insurance issue.
Shit, ull be making 200k+ a year in a few years, i'll bring this up then
And track insurance is dead with any car insurance place. Separate insurance isnt a problem, just based on price, but you are still left wide open on liability and medical which are never covered unless you go way out f your way like Kris did
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