need some wheel help quick!

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#1 Mar 8, 2008, 9:11 am Hide

fourringpilot

I am jonesing to get some new wheels for my NSX since I am bored with the old ones (and a certain other X owner won't sell me theirs :x ).
I am close to buying some BBS rs wheels that weigh 17lbs each and are three piece. One of the rear wheels need to have the polished metal refinished but it is not damaged bad. The wheels I have now are 18s and weigh about 24 - 26lbs each. I will be saving almost 7 - 9lbs a wheel. Does anyone notice a difference by putting on lighter wheels?
I have never owned bbs so I am wondering if they are worth the extra $$$ vs other wheels that are fairly close in weight.
I must buy by Sunday night 3/9/08

Please help!
#2 Mar 8, 2008, 10:00 am Hide

fourringpilot

bmp for help asap
#3 Mar 8, 2008, 10:03 am Hide

LotusUSA

I've had BBS wheels before and all I can say is it's worth every penny. Not too stylish but very classy. With regards to lighweight wheels, light is might.
#4 Mar 8, 2008, 10:24 am Hide

Don-06C6

I'd have to go with jason. He certainly knows about light. He's the only guy I know that removed the radio and speakers from a STREET car to make it lighter.
#5 Mar 8, 2008, 10:43 am Hide

Raza76

Justin, there's a thread on Prime about a guy doing time-testing with different wheels. The first test had REALLY heavy wheels and the second test had REALLY light wheels. Interestingly, there was almost no difference in times.

I was suprised, too.
#6 Mar 8, 2008, 12:07 pm Hide

fiorano94

BBS CH's are cool, mainly a Ferrari style, but they also look good on NSX's IMO.
#7 Mar 8, 2008, 1:46 pm Hide

Raza76

My next set will most likely be the Volks GTC's. Excellent wheels, there, and also perfect offset on the NSX for running 275's out back.
#8 Mar 8, 2008, 3:25 pm Hide

LotusUSA

Volks and BBS are both good wheels.
#9 Mar 8, 2008, 3:45 pm Hide

fourringpilot

Thanks for the help. I am going to buy these Sunday if all goes to plan. TY much.
#10 Mar 8, 2008, 8:17 pm Hide

LotusUSA

Sounds good! Don't forget the pics
#11 Mar 9, 2008, 3:44 pm Hide

fiorano94

fourringpilot wrote
Thanks for the help. I am going to buy these Sunday if all goes to plan. TY much.
Which ones?
#12 Mar 9, 2008, 4:53 pm Hide

fourringpilot

I am no longer getting the wheels. The only issue w/ the wheels is some clear coat coming off one of the rears. The owner says"it just needs polish and recoat".
Unfortunatley w/ this model of BBS wheel once you strip the clear coat it never looks the same and won't match the other three.
I considered repainting all the wheels to match but don't want to spend the time. I will have to look at the Racing Hart wheels for a while.
On the plus side:
My brother's tuning biz in LA will start producing custom wheels for Japanese and Italian cars as soon as the end of summer 2008. I will have to wait for a set, but should be worth it.
#13 Mar 12, 2008, 4:52 am Hide

LotusUSA

fourringpilot wrote
I am no longer getting the wheels. The only issue w/ the wheels is some clear coat coming off one of the rears. The owner says"it just needs polish and recoat".
Unfortunatley w/ this model of BBS wheel once you strip the clear coat it never looks the same and won't match the other three.
I considered repainting all the wheels to match but don't want to spend the time. I will have to look at the Racing Hart wheels for a while.
On the plus side:
My brother's tuning biz in LA will start producing custom wheels for Japanese and Italian cars as soon as the end of summer 2008. I will have to wait for a set, but should be worth it.


Good plan. Yet, I won't get racing hart. Wait for your bro.
#14 Mar 12, 2008, 12:09 pm Hide

Raza76

fourringpilot wrote
I am no longer getting the wheels. The only issue w/ the wheels is some clear coat coming off one of the rears. The owner says"it just needs polish and recoat".
Unfortunatley w/ this model of BBS wheel once you strip the clear coat it never looks the same and won't match the other three.
I considered repainting all the wheels to match but don't want to spend the time. I will have to look at the Racing Hart wheels for a while.
On the plus side:
My brother's tuning biz in LA will start producing custom wheels for Japanese and Italian cars as soon as the end of summer 2008. I will have to wait for a set, but should be worth it.

Do I have to ask if there's going to be some custom offsets for the NSX's available from your brother???
#15 Mar 12, 2008, 2:00 pm Hide

LotusUSA

Raza76 wrote
Do I have to ask if there's going to be some custom offsets for the NSX's available from your brother???


Somebody's getting some ideas. WOOT!
#16 Mar 13, 2008, 4:23 am Hide

ZUL8TR

There's a company in Fort Wayne that will refinish wheels. I looked into it last year. It was going to be ~ $150 per wheel. They come back looking like new.

As for light-weight...

Reducing spinning weight is very important. It takes energy (e.g. HP) to get spinning weight moving and then to keep it moving. Dropping 7 pounds of spinning weight from each wheel (28 pounds total) will give you better control, acceleration, braking, etc. Much more than dropping 28 pounds of unsprung weight. So yes, look for light-weight rim and tire combos.

OK Mr Wizard...for your home science test:
Take a bicycle wheel off the bike. Hold it by the axle and get the wheel turning fast. Now try to make it wobble and turn side to side. It takes some effort. The lighter the rim and tire combo, the easier it will actually get. Makes it easier on your brakes too. They have to stop the momentum of te spinning weight, so you should expect your braking distance to be reduced.
#17 Mar 13, 2008, 4:26 am Hide

LotusUSA

well done Mark! Now, we're talking. Bravo!
#18 Mar 13, 2008, 9:19 am Hide

bgwilly31

BBS wheels are very nice. If you like their style. They are also very strong and very light.

As for light wheels.

They should MAKE a huge difference.

You cant do tests with two different cars. It just wont work.

On my first lexus. I had some heavy ass 19" chrome AXIS wheels put on it. Riding with those and then going back to the 16" winter wheels. The car was night and day. Acceleration was tremendously different and braking too.

Saving any UNSPRUNG weight is Very benificial
#19 Mar 13, 2008, 10:38 am Hide

ZUL8TR

Here's a good source for playing with wheel and tires sizes so you can stay as close to normal as possible:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html
#20 Mar 13, 2008, 5:54 pm Hide

fourringpilot

Raza76 wrote
Do I have to ask if there's going to be some custom offsets for the NSX's available from your brother???
This line will be NSX specific. Currently he is focusing on Supra parts but all my begging is starting to pay off.
His shop will be using his neighbor's NSX and my NSX for fitment/testing of many oem conversion pieces. He has been gracious enough to sponsor my car. So far all I have recieved is the HID kit.
The wheel process will take about 1-2 years since testing is paramount to avoid losing cred like HRE did. Expect the wheels to go between $3000 - $5000 a set.
#21 Mar 14, 2008, 6:54 am Hide

coco-bun

I thought NSX wheels pretty darn light (and aren't they forged?) to start with?
#22 Mar 14, 2008, 8:26 pm Hide

Raza76

coco-bun wrote
I thought NSX wheels pretty darn light (and aren't they forged?) to start with?

Yeah, but they're tiny.
#23 Mar 17, 2008, 6:45 am Hide

DC33

want to buy my Zanardi wheels??
#24 Mar 17, 2008, 7:05 pm Hide

fourringpilot

DC33 wrote
want to buy my Zanardi wheels??
Is that even a question!?! PM me and we can start the negotiating.
#25 Mar 19, 2008, 8:19 am Hide

DC33

you got pm
but I dont negociate
I set my price at what I want and thats it.
I dont ask high just to get what I really want
plus Im asking less than what I spent on them