To NOS or not to NOS

I have always been adamant about keeping the car totally NA. I was showing my gf the new headers, big bore throttle body, and intake scoop that I plan on getting this Fall. It will net almost 30+ hp - total price = $2000.
She says "why not get nitrous? how much does that cost?" I told her it's around $600. She asked if it gives as much hp as the $2000 setup. I said it actually gives about 70 extra hp. She tells me I am an idiot for even thinking of spending 3 times as much for less hp.
I knda feel like I'm cheating by spraying my car, but more hp is more hp
Curious as to everyone's thoughts.

It's gonna get a lot more expensive when you start burning up pistons and needing a rebuild on that engine. NOS is cheating IMO. If you can't tune and build an engine to make power, what's the sense of cheating and using NOS? Headers are a decent start but have you done anything to the rest of the exhaust? Big bore throttle bodies are alright also but they have their limitations and really only deliver a quicker throttle respose, your still going to be limited to the intake runner sizes. Figure out where you want the engine to perform and build accordingly. Me? I've built mine for all midrange and topend. I've done this with gearing, compression, cams, intakes and headers/exhaust systems. My other question to you is what are you driving that you are wanting to do this to, since I'm new to this forum and don't know what many out there have.

Dave

Nitrous Oxide in my opinion is a legitimate power adder. Even cam science has developed around the principals of the gas. If you've never played with it you are missing out on a real good time.

My mission in life however, is to ban the use of NOS as the generically used lingo for nitrous oxide. Mike Thermos founded Nitrous Oxide Systems in the late 70's/ early 80's and did a great job of promoting his company, but we were kicking butt with other engineered systems at the time. His plates froze up, and had a few other issues. I know they have developed well over the years, but those early years slugging it out with them at trade shows left a bad taste with me.
So call it N2O, Nitrous, etc but NOT NOS, unless you specifically mean their system.


Rant over.


No disrespect to poster above, but what if you CAN build and tune, and still elect to add nitrous to a great runner? Cheating?
Especially with cars we need to drive around on 5 dollar gas. You can make it so radical its making 500 hp but is no fun to drive, or make it something you car run errands in, then go like heck when you want it too. It's not everyone bag, but it has a place in hot rodding.

What ever you do, I guarantee hitting the button on a nitrous car will make you smile over and over.

I had it on my last supra. RIP supra. Aside from it not being so good for the motor (and NSX motors going for about 10K), I just found it to be a pain in the ass. It's great to use, then it runs out. Then you have go get it filled. 4 hrs later it's empty again. Besides... even if juice it, you're still gonna wind up getting the headers and TB anyways.

LOL, Ain't that the truth! I think I know what cocaine addicts must feel like. It really is hard to stay off the bottle.

NOS is really a drag racing application. I was at Automotive Specilaties yesterday while they we dynoing a drag car. 477 CI aftermarket motor in a Firebird, tubed out full drag slicks roll cage etc. 8.5 second car.

It made 485 rear wheel HP off the NOS and 850 when sprayed. They emptied a NOS bottle in 4 shots on the Dyno.(they had 8 bottles with them) and a big tank to refill them in their car hauler.

NOS is for drag cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do the head, cam, header, thing and you have power all the time.... The American mentality is drag,,, I am a road racer, Putnam park kind of guy and NOS has no use there... Floor It,,, especiall with size 15s

Since NOS can not be used at the track this would just be for my private enjoyment of going from 0 - ~ much faster. A 100 shot of nitrous would bring me up to 390 hp. Currently the car is right at 290 with the high flow intake and exhaust. The stage 2 clutch is a great racing/streetable clutch. The NSX can easily handle up to 390 hp without need of an engine build. Since I will be using the boost in a straight line I will not need new sway bars or suspension. All the stock internals should be fine.
AND yes I will still get a BBTB and Cantrel Headers. Great for the response,and the sound is AWESOME. I don't think there is a better sound than BBTB, headers, exhaust. I would no longer need a stereo when I have that to listen to.

I view NOS as the "Sony" of nitrous applications. They are proven and effective. How difficult is it to install a NOS brand system that will give 100 shot?

The head, cam, header thing would add about 50 hp total. Cost would be close to $11,000. On a small shot of nitrous I would get the same hp for $600. The Honda engine did not leave much room for improvement. It is nothing like the Supra setup unfortunately.

You should have seen the setup this guy had in his trailer to refill bottles.

He had one of those big tanks and 8 of the small bottles. There was a pump mounted on wall of the trailer and he hooked it to the small bottles a refilled them himself. Said it was way cheaper that way..... Maybe you guys should go together and buy your own refill set up... you could have your own NOS parties

NOS is for ricers aqnd pussys
if the power isnt ALWAYS there then its cheating and weak
plus if you like your NSX, NOS isnt not the answer....unless you want to blow it up

Ummmm, no.
Nitrous is for rAcers, mostly drag. RIcers have stolen it and are building a culture around it with those stupid movies. Drag racers were building motors around nitrous use before Honda even built the first Civic.

And it won't blow up your motor any more than other power enhancing goodies. In fact, 100 hp with N2O is easier on a motor than adding 100 hp with radical cam, compression, etc... The problem most guys run into is insufficient fuel supply, then the kit goes lean and melts stuff, because you just dumped extra oxygen (the O part) into your cylinders and need the extra fuel to keep the mixture correct.

You wont really use it on lapping days and such, but it is great fun when playing around. A 125 hp set up on a 350 Chevy will last about 10 full 1/4 mile passes, so in the 120 second range before the bottle is empty. Some guys only launch with it, some only in high gear. Some however, with good traction and stout motors add stages all down the track. Fun, but expensive!

I respect Ferrari Fags more than I do NOS users.....
and that says it all

Respect this, Nitrous Ferrari hater!!!! 737 cubic inches of rice, just for you.

Boy can't you feel the love?

heck, after that attachment of the motor, I feel like I'm looking at car porn. Pretty motor!

From Steve Schmitt Racing Engines here in Indy. Sorry, I should have posted NSFW.

I've had previous engine machine work done from there at Schmitt Automotive and it's been shitty results. They do good work as far as balancing parts goes. But they fucked up a cylinder head for me and basically lied about being able to install bigger seats for me. I used to recommend they but no longer. I now use Richard's Cylinder Head Service for all my engine machine work. They punched out a block for me and serviced a cylinder head last year for me and are currently doing some machine work for me right now on a high compression head for me. Highly recommend them and reasonable prices also!

Sorry to hear that. I've had good luck with them in the past, but nothing done recently. I did go out and talk to them the other day about building a big stroker crank for my 59's little 283. Looking for that mega inch stealth motor.

A nice roller 327 would be just wicked to have!

I guess 737cubic inches wasnt enough.

So true. That pic was way too hot for the boys on this forum. There should be a consent form just to look at that.

Will this suffice?

Auto Erotica = Sex with a car