S2000 VS NSX

Mar 4, 2008, 9:00 am

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Okay since there are now some of both on this forum.

I recently heard through the grapevine that an Ap2 S2k can beat a NSX in a straightline race.

Pretty hard to believe.

Ive never driven the NSX. But i had them pinned for faster than that?

Was i wrong:/

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:49 am

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hate to be a magazine racer but my toyota is supposed to be as fast as a S2000.

balance and handling is where they shine from what I hear, not straight line.

Mar 4, 2008, 9:59 am

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cszink wrote

Stock for stock the s2k wins...but I've seen my buddy with Stage 1 million (I think its actually 4) kick the shit out of a modded s2k.

If you're talking about Steve's S2000, his is cheating. that thing makes like 500hp.

Mar 4, 2008, 10:03 am

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Ask my dad, VTECPWR.

He has both...

Mark in his 1991 NSX has been full on it before (but still doing the speed limit of course) and he didnt pull away from my dad THAT MUCH in his S2000.

237HP VS 270, and the NSX has more torque id assume.

And, Casey, stock for stock, the NSX will always be better.

I love the S2000, and the NSX so i am as unbiased as unbiased can get, but the NSX is faster when you get the chance to really get on it.

It also depends on NA1 or NA2 style NSX, and AP1 or AP2 S2K.\\

Also, the NSX (from what i hear...) has more grip/turn in when it comes to cornering.

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:06 am

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I doubt it. Really depends on the indiviual cars and drivers though. NSX's aren't renowned for thier torque, but the S2000 is much worse. Also, if you're talking about an AP1 S2000 vs. an NA1 NSX (like mine) maybe it'd be close, but I'm pretty sure an NA2 NSX (like Dan's and Dave's red one) would take it.

Don't get me wrong, if I had a 8 car garage, there'd be an S2000 in 1 bay for sure.

NSX NA1:

0-60: 5.3 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6

NSX NA2:
0-60: 4.8 sec
1/4 mile: 13.2

2003 S200 AP1:
0-60: 6.3 sec
1/4 mile: 14.90

2004 S200 AP2:
0-60: 5.4
1/4 mile: 14.1

AP1 & AP2 S2000 will reach 155mph top Speed.

NA1 NSX will top out at Between 168 mph (NA1) and 175mph (NA2 "facelift")

Source: Road&Track listing reposted on mopar forum.

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:07 am

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Raza76 wrote

I AP1 & AP2 S2000 will reach 155mph top Speed.

Sorry to burst your bubble, BUT...

Stock limited to 130.

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:10 am

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155 is the what the car will reach unrestricted. Then it became a matter of the conv. top holding it back. (I searched the S2000 forums for this one...)

Also, I very rarely ever go "full on it". My tires have been crap since the day I bought it and "full on it" will break them loose and trip the TCS in 1st, or around turns in any gear under 4th.

Really though, under 60 mph, there's not a lot of difference any way you look at it. It's when you get into the triple digits does the NSX really pull away.

But, under 60 from roll on's, it's not really fare to compare, the NSX does 80 in 2nd... not great gearing for only 270hp. Heck, Sztinky's 3G GT would stay close under 60...

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:14 am

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cszink wrote

Did I say it wouldn't be? 8)

D'OH!

I thought you were talking about S2K V NSX, not S2k V cobalt thingy.

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:17 am

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Cobalt > S2000> NSX.

duh.

Doesn't someone here have a S2000? Just take them to IRP and see who's faster.

Mar 4, 2008, 10:19 am

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cszink wrote

Riding in Marks NSX, I have to say I have never been more comfortable in a car around a corner than in that car. It is simply amazing.

Well, NSX's are truely awesome around a turn, but mine doesn't have ANY stock parts left in the suspension except the control arms. Makes a big difference...

Now to get some tires....

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:21 am

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coco-bun wrote

Cobalt > S2000> NSX.

duh.

Doesn't someone here have a S2000? Just take them to IRP and see who's faster.

My dad has an S2K and NSX...

Remember

AND Both are stock...

I'm NOT volunteering him for anything though...

So dont get ahead of yourselves...

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:26 am

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cszink wrote

What, you don't like uncontrollable sliding on every turn?

I love it... Gonna be a great drive home today in the Chevy!

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:36 am

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fiorano94 wrote

Sorry to burst your bubble, BUT...

Stock limited to 130.

I'm pretty sure this is false & they will get into the 150 range. AP1 was drag limited to around 155 & AP2 is gear limited to around 150. Anyhow, from what I've heard (not personal experience) NA1 & AP2 are fairly similar in straightline acceleration. NA2 decimates AP2.

Mar 4, 2008, 10:38 am

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FWLBP wrote

I'm pretty sure this is false & they will get into the 150 range. Anyhow, from what I've heard (not personal experience) NA1 & AP2 are fairly similar in straightline acceleration. NA2 decimates AP2.

+1

The NA2 NSX's really pick up their speed from the extra gear in the tranny. The 20 extra hp doesn't make THAT much of a difference considering they weigh 150 lbs more.

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:48 am

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bahhh the NA-2's weigh more than NA-1's I hate when they do that.

My cousin has an Ap2.

So the reason i care about this secpulation is im trying to help him make his decision.

He is trying to decided between keeping his AP2 and building it up. F/I and suspension blah blah. Basically flushing money down the toilet in terms of return investment.

OR.

Buying a NA 2 NSX. 50k-60k range.

OR> now this was my idea.

Buying a 08 Lotus Exige S240.

We've talked about it a ton and i thought he was pretty much decided on the NA-2.

But after this news the debate is back.

What do you guys think?

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:53 am

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OR> now this was my idea.

Buying a 08 Lotus Exige S240.

I like this idea the best. Man I just love the elise & exige. I like the NA2 a lot, but I like the exige just a little more. Its new & seems a little more exotic to me. I'm sure its quite fast too. In the end though, modding the S2000 will be cheaper than buying the NSX or Lotus. I mean if he bought the new Exige, how much would it lose in value after a year, that'd probably be enough for a supercharger for the S2k. Conundrum...

Mar 4, 2008, 10:57 am

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bgwilly31 wrote

bahhh the NA-2's weigh more than NA-1's I hate when they do that.

My cousin has an Ap2.

So the reason i care about this secpulation is im trying to help him make his decision.

He is trying to decided between keeping his AP2 and building it up. F/I and suspension blah blah. Basically flushing money down the toilet in terms of return investment.

OR.

Buying a NA 2 NSX. 50k-60k range.

OR> now this was my idea.

Buying a 08 Lotus Exige S240.

We've talked about it a ton and i thought he was pretty much decided on the NA-2.

But after this news the debate is back.

What do you guys think?

The NA2's are heavier because ALL US NA2's (except Zanardi's) are Targa-tops. The weight's carried low. You can't tell driving, really. Also, with the 6 speed... it IS faster.

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:00 am

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he wouldnt buy the exige240 new. It would be an early next spring purchase. Hes planning on spending this summer attempting to sell the s2k.

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:24 pm

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FWLBP wrote

I'm pretty sure this is false & they will get into the 150 range. AP1 was drag limited to around 155 & AP2 is gear limited to around 150. Anyhow, from what I've heard (not personal experience) NA1 & AP2 are fairly similar in straightline acceleration. NA2 decimates AP2.

It's 130 stock.

Trust me.

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:26 pm

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bgwilly31 wrote

bahhh the NA-2's weigh more than NA-1's I hate when they do that.

My cousin has an Ap2.

So the reason i care about this secpulation is im trying to help him make his decision.

He is trying to decided between keeping his AP2 and building it up. F/I and suspension blah blah. Basically flushing money down the toilet in terms of return investment.

OR.

Buying a NA 2 NSX. 50k-60k range.

OR> now this was my idea.

Buying a 08 Lotus Exige S240.

We've talked about it a ton and i thought he was pretty much decided on the NA-2.

But after this news the debate is back.

What do you guys think?

Na2.

Get a 1997-2001.

2001 is the last year for what i call the "real" NSX's.

Pop up headlights FTW...

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:39 pm

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fiorano94 wrote

Also, the NSX (from what i hear...) has more grip/turn in when it comes to cornering.

Don't you remember the video of fourring taking a turn down in Brown County?

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:50 pm

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fiorano94 wrote

Na2.

Get a 1997-2001.

2001 is the last year for what i call the "real" NSX's.

Pop up headlights FTW...

There slower and older.

Whats the advantages of the NA-1 Besides being cheaper and 150lbs lighter.

Were talking stock here.

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:56 pm

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fiorano94 wrote

It's 130 stock.

Trust me.

I've been to 120 in 5th gear, I find it hard to believe 6th gear would end at 130.

Mar 4, 2008, 12:57 pm

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Thats why your suppossed to trust him^

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Mar 4, 2008, 1:02 pm

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FWLBP wrote

I've been to 120 in 5th gear, I find it hard to believe 6th gear would end at 130.

6th gear limiter comes in at like 6K RPM...

Its ghey...

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